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 Post subject: Re: No ASU game?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 12:03 pm 
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FOOT84 wrote:
It may be because UCA offered ASU a three game contract in football a few
years ago. The first two games in Jonesboro and the third one in Little Rock
and ASU said no thanks. What goes around comes around. ASU wants the
hogs to play them in football but when they have a chance to play an instate
school they decline. kinda like the pot calling the kettle black.

ASU is not going to play UCA in LR unless someone makes it financially worthwhile. Just doesn't make sense. As for the pot and kettle, you might want to review history a little.

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 Post subject: Re: No ASU game?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 12:33 pm 
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Question for Bear fans. No doubt ASU can't pay us the kind of money that a "bigger" school can. Are you willing to, say, take half the amount of money from ASU just to play them as opposed to a fat paycheck from another school? Remember, at this level, money is what pays the bills and not bragging rights.


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 Post subject: Re: No ASU game?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 12:42 pm 
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Honey Bear wrote:
Question for Bear fans. No doubt ASU can't pay us the kind of money that a "bigger" school can. Are you willing to, say, take half the amount of money from ASU just to play them as opposed to a fat paycheck from another school? Remember, at this level, money is what pays the bills and not bragging rights.



Yes, I want to play them regardless, but not every year...like you said, we have to pay the bills.


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 Post subject: Re: No ASU game?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 1:44 pm 
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Yes. I would love to play them. But I also understand we have to pay the bills. So I am fine with playing OSU, Ole Miss, Colorado, etc.

But in my heart, I'd rather see an ASU-UCA game. I think that could develop into a good hearted, fun rivalry over the next 20 years. At least for all us fans.

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 Post subject: Re: No ASU game?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:10 am 
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Crump1 wrote:
I am pretty certain that ASU contacted UCA and UAPB recently about future FB schedules. Let's hope so. It would be nice to see 40,000 people packed into the stadium for that!


We had deals with UAPB fall apart this year and last.


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 Post subject: Re: No ASU game?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:15 am 
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Beary Manilow wrote:
But my main point was that stAte isn't going to take some meteoric rise to a super-elite status where it can't be bothered with home-and-homes with piddly Southland schools (UCA included) ... which is what the other guy was saying.


That's not what I said.

I said the risk exists that if ASU begins drawing well that we will play fewer home/home series. Simple economics your response was not in any way justified based on anything I wrote, but rather your twisting to be something different.

A school averaging 6,000+ (which ASU has been before) tends to play fewer home and home games. That's the economics of the business. It also isn't something that requires a "metoric rise to super-elite status".


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 Post subject: Re: No ASU game?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:20 am 
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Beary Manilow wrote:
The difference is, last time you were drawing well there wasn't an in-state team a couple hours from Jonesboro in the Southland.

That's the draw and what Brady is really concerned about (right. :roll: ) - playing an in-state school, not playing a Southland school. The conference affiliation shouldn't have any bearing on it.

It's one thing to pass on a home & home with Sam Houston State - where you're bringing in a team nobody really cares anything about (even though they're pretty good) and going the following year to a place where nobody cares about you; and passing on a home & home with UCA - where there's the wonderful in-state competition angle and you bring in an opponent that will bring some fans and generate local interest and then, on the other side, have a short road trip in an area where a lot of your alumni are and many of your fans can attend.


No there was a TAAC team in Central Arkansas and we are such elitists that when the American South and Sun Belt merged and your now conference mates at Lamar tried to block UALR's admission, ASU got them in despite the fact that UALR had canceled a multi-year contract that cost ASU thousands of dollars a few years earlier in a political move pushed by the UA system.

Weird thing about college athletics. Most schools do what is economically best for them.


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 Post subject: Re: No ASU game?
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arkstfan wrote:
Crump1 wrote:
I am pretty certain that ASU contacted UCA and UAPB recently about future FB schedules. Let's hope so. It would be nice to see 40,000 people packed into the stadium for that!


We had deals with UAPB fall apart this year and last.



Did they double-book? :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: No ASU game?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:32 pm 
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As much as I like Monte Coleman, something always seems to happen when uapb is involved...they need to prove they are a reliable game partner....

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 Post subject: Re: No ASU game?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 8:24 am 
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Dead topic, UCA VS ASU on Sept. 24th 2011


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 Post subject: Re: No ASU game?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 8:54 am 
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Shouldn't this no longer be a topic in the Football forum? We got a little sidetracked here. 8)


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 Post subject: Re: No ASU game?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 10:58 am 
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GoldilocksWasYummy wrote:
Dead topic, UCA VS ASU on Sept. 24th 2011


The basketball issue remains and I still don't get to drive over to Conway to see ASU and UCA play in basketball.


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 Post subject: Re: No ASU game?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 11:00 am 
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or woman's basketball, or baseball, or volleyball, etc... yep still a long way to go, but this is a start at least.

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 Post subject: Re: No ASU game?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:43 pm 
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Bear Fan 101 wrote:
or woman's basketball, or baseball, or volleyball, etc... yep still a long way to go, but this is a start at least.


Baseball sort of went sour when UCA demanded the buyout fee rather than reschedule for a future date when a schedule conflict arose. Maybe the coaching change at ASU will change that.


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 Post subject: Re: No ASU game?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:13 pm 
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arkstfan wrote:
Bear Fan 101 wrote:
or woman's basketball, or baseball, or volleyball, etc... yep still a long way to go, but this is a start at least.


Maybe the coaching change at ASU will change that.
and UCA too...

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